SMP LeaderTalks

#121 | “Good” is better than “new”

SMP LeaderTalks

26. November 2025

Georgiy Michailov meets Jule Jankowski

About “good work,” the ambivalence of life, and a kitchen as a metaphor for transformation.

1 h 7 Min

"Good work is the art of finding a home in change."

How much change can people cope with? And where can we find stability when everything seems to be changing at once? In a world characterized by speed, transformation, and ambivalence, many people long for guidance—both professionally and privately. But what does it actually mean to find a home in change? And why is it dangerous to rely solely on formulas and rules?

"Rules tempt our imagination and creativity to subvert them."

Jule Jankowski is known as a columnist and thought leader on work culture in Germany. As an author, consultant, and host of the podcast “Good Work,” she guides people through complex change processes—always with a clear focus on the essentials. In her conversation with Georgiy Michailov, she explains why principles are often more powerful than rules, how rituals provide stability, and how important it is to find meaning in one's work. The two also discuss the importance of physical presence, AI scenarios, and why sometimes a new kitchen can be enough to experience transformation.

*Video only in German

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